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		<title>By: Brighton Sage</title>
		<link>http://omnipotentpoobah.com/2010/03/16/why-does-the-right-hate-america/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>Brighton Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have just experienced a curious confluence in which a right wing coalition of economic libertarians who wanted only self regulation for big oil, big agribusiness, big banks, big hedge funds, and big everything.... , grifters, big and small, who just wanted something for nothing, and the government seemed like a good place to get it, those who just wanted to disrupt the function of government for a variety of reasons, many not very idealistic, and those who wanted to regulate, but only to control or punish the social and personal conduct of their enemies, then there were also included some gun worshipers and UFO crazies. 

It is impossible to form a government that actually provides good governance with such a witches brew, and sane people didn&#039;t expect it. That there are still many of these anti government nit wits in place, consciously embedded by small violations of civil service rules over the span of 8 years, is also no surprise. Their cousins, outside of government who were frustrated the George II and Cheney the Impaler did not completely crush or corrupt the government, are now claiming to be &quot;patriots&quot; wanting to take their country back, to secede, to ignore any part of the Constitution that protected somebody else&#039;s rights, and to re-interpret, it and all historical records to fit the mythical narrative the have made up to justify their current folly.

Of course they hate. They hate the facts that do not fit those narratives and they hate people who bring up those facts and, most of all, they hate those (especially minorities, sometimes including women) who exemplify the the history of their maltreatment by those &quot;patriots.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have just experienced a curious confluence in which a right wing coalition of economic libertarians who wanted only self regulation for big oil, big agribusiness, big banks, big hedge funds, and big everything&#8230;. , grifters, big and small, who just wanted something for nothing, and the government seemed like a good place to get it, those who just wanted to disrupt the function of government for a variety of reasons, many not very idealistic, and those who wanted to regulate, but only to control or punish the social and personal conduct of their enemies, then there were also included some gun worshipers and UFO crazies. </p>
<p>It is impossible to form a government that actually provides good governance with such a witches brew, and sane people didn&#8217;t expect it. That there are still many of these anti government nit wits in place, consciously embedded by small violations of civil service rules over the span of 8 years, is also no surprise. Their cousins, outside of government who were frustrated the George II and Cheney the Impaler did not completely crush or corrupt the government, are now claiming to be &#8220;patriots&#8221; wanting to take their country back, to secede, to ignore any part of the Constitution that protected somebody else&#8217;s rights, and to re-interpret, it and all historical records to fit the mythical narrative the have made up to justify their current folly.</p>
<p>Of course they hate. They hate the facts that do not fit those narratives and they hate people who bring up those facts and, most of all, they hate those (especially minorities, sometimes including women) who exemplify the the history of their maltreatment by those &#8220;patriots.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: daveawayfromhome</title>
		<link>http://omnipotentpoobah.com/2010/03/16/why-does-the-right-hate-america/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>daveawayfromhome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the problem is simply that politicians have discovered that they can control more effectively with PR spinning than they can with common nuts-and-bolts political compromise-and-exchange. It&#039;ll probably take a generation to get over this, the effect lessening as people who grew up eith this crap (and so can ignore it) become the majority. No doubt, by then there will be some &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt; method of avoiding actual political work and punching your opponent in his (metaphorical) head instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the problem is simply that politicians have discovered that they can control more effectively with PR spinning than they can with common nuts-and-bolts political compromise-and-exchange. It&#8217;ll probably take a generation to get over this, the effect lessening as people who grew up eith this crap (and so can ignore it) become the majority. No doubt, by then there will be some <i>new</i> method of avoiding actual political work and punching your opponent in his (metaphorical) head instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig R. Harmon</title>
		<link>http://omnipotentpoobah.com/2010/03/16/why-does-the-right-hate-america/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig R. Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think both the right and the left love (their own vision of) America and hate (the other side&#039;s vision of) America. Even Texans&#039; wishing to secede is probably motivated by the opinion that their own vision of America, which they love, is hopelessly lost, not by any hatred of America itself. I really wish partisans could get past calling the other side names: Nazis, fascists, socialists, communists, traitors, etc., used in the sense of simple, non substantive pejoratives, as it gets the discussion nowhere and just solidifies the opposition in its unwillingness to give a fair hearing to the other side(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think both the right and the left love (their own vision of) America and hate (the other side&#8217;s vision of) America. Even Texans&#8217; wishing to secede is probably motivated by the opinion that their own vision of America, which they love, is hopelessly lost, not by any hatred of America itself. I really wish partisans could get past calling the other side names: Nazis, fascists, socialists, communists, traitors, etc., used in the sense of simple, non substantive pejoratives, as it gets the discussion nowhere and just solidifies the opposition in its unwillingness to give a fair hearing to the other side(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Craig R. Harmon</title>
		<link>http://omnipotentpoobah.com/2010/03/16/why-does-the-right-hate-america/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig R. Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It seems a bit odd that a US Congressman – a sworn representative of the American government, a man who loathes those who don’t recite the Pledge, and wears a flag lapel pin with OCD-like repetition – is calling for a “revolution” in America.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But what&#039;s more American than rebellion? :-P We&#039;ve had at least two in our history: the colonials rebelled against the British and the south rebelled against the north. I remember something about the tree of liberty requiring occasional nourishing with the blood of patriots. It&#039;s not about hating America; it&#039;s about hating some people&#039;s vision of America: at the moment, primarily the visions of Obama, Pelosi and Reid et al. They just happen to be the one&#039;s in charge right now. Besides, it&#039;s not a violent revolution being called for; it&#039;s more of a civil disobedience revolt.

Mind you, I don&#039;t think it would be likely to work, anyway. The only thing that will stop the health care reform bill now, I think, would be a SCOTUS ruling that the resolution maneuver or some major component, such as the mandate to buy into the insurance exchange, is unconstitutional on its face and the SCOTUS is, I think, unlikely to touch such a politically charged issue, no matter how conservative the court might be. The Supremes simply do not look behind the signatures representing the bill as being passed in both houses, no matter how unconstitutional the trickery involved in getting to said passage.

Mind you, I&#039;m not saying the maneuver &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; unconstitutional. I&#039;m not qualified to make such a call. I&#039;ve read legal experts argue both sides of that question. I&#039;m just saying, its (hypothetical) unconstitutionality is likely to be a moot point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It seems a bit odd that a US Congressman – a sworn representative of the American government, a man who loathes those who don’t recite the Pledge, and wears a flag lapel pin with OCD-like repetition – is calling for a “revolution” in America.</p></blockquote>
<p>But what&#8217;s more American than rebellion? <img src='http://omnipotentpoobah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  We&#8217;ve had at least two in our history: the colonials rebelled against the British and the south rebelled against the north. I remember something about the tree of liberty requiring occasional nourishing with the blood of patriots. It&#8217;s not about hating America; it&#8217;s about hating some people&#8217;s vision of America: at the moment, primarily the visions of Obama, Pelosi and Reid et al. They just happen to be the one&#8217;s in charge right now. Besides, it&#8217;s not a violent revolution being called for; it&#8217;s more of a civil disobedience revolt.</p>
<p>Mind you, I don&#8217;t think it would be likely to work, anyway. The only thing that will stop the health care reform bill now, I think, would be a SCOTUS ruling that the resolution maneuver or some major component, such as the mandate to buy into the insurance exchange, is unconstitutional on its face and the SCOTUS is, I think, unlikely to touch such a politically charged issue, no matter how conservative the court might be. The Supremes simply do not look behind the signatures representing the bill as being passed in both houses, no matter how unconstitutional the trickery involved in getting to said passage.</p>
<p>Mind you, I&#8217;m not saying the maneuver <i>is</i> unconstitutional. I&#8217;m not qualified to make such a call. I&#8217;ve read legal experts argue both sides of that question. I&#8217;m just saying, its (hypothetical) unconstitutionality is likely to be a moot point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://omnipotentpoobah.com/2010/03/16/why-does-the-right-hate-america/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They hate Amerika because a black man is in the oval office and Congress is controlled by the Democraps...these facts really give them a mental meltdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They hate Amerika because a black man is in the oval office and Congress is controlled by the Democraps&#8230;these facts really give them a mental meltdown.</p>
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